Hello all,
i have a bit of trouble with the word 'queer.'
I thought this word was originally used as a swear word towards gay men mostly.
But then the last few years it seems to have become an umbrella term - this also happened to the word 'transgender'.
So I was thinking on posting about spaces that are friendly and resourcefull for both gay, lesbi and tranny folks here in Holand.
But I think in the Netherlands 'queer' still means 'gay'.
How can we exchange information if the definitions are off?
Another question: for the past 11 years I called myself bisexual, but i don't feel comfortable using that word anymore - for many reasons. First of all the bi scnene felt very straight to me, secondly the word 'bi' conforms to the notion there are only two genders, thirdly: if I don't identify as either gender and I'll always be of a different gender than my partner, then I must be... heterosexual!!
But I don't want to call myself het...
So should i call myself simply 'sexual' or 'queer'??
Jeez...
I WANT to be called _some_thing....
i have a bit of trouble with the word 'queer.'
I thought this word was originally used as a swear word towards gay men mostly.
But then the last few years it seems to have become an umbrella term - this also happened to the word 'transgender'.
So I was thinking on posting about spaces that are friendly and resourcefull for both gay, lesbi and tranny folks here in Holand.
But I think in the Netherlands 'queer' still means 'gay'.
How can we exchange information if the definitions are off?
Another question: for the past 11 years I called myself bisexual, but i don't feel comfortable using that word anymore - for many reasons. First of all the bi scnene felt very straight to me, secondly the word 'bi' conforms to the notion there are only two genders, thirdly: if I don't identify as either gender and I'll always be of a different gender than my partner, then I must be... heterosexual!!
But I don't want to call myself het...
So should i call myself simply 'sexual' or 'queer'??
Jeez...
I WANT to be called _some_thing....
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Re: Define "queer"...?
Fri, July 2, 2004 - 6:10 PMHi Joli(e),
I accept that my use of 'queer' here probably ends up translating as 'transgressive gay man'. That's my experience and that's what spurred on the creation of this tribe.
I would love 'queer' to mean more.
And I'm interested in how the members of this tribe want to define the term and the spaces that they feel are associated with it... -
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Re: Define "queer"...?
Fri, July 16, 2004 - 8:24 PMcall yourself on a payphone..
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Re: Define "queer"...?
Sat, August 28, 2004 - 9:39 PMQueer to me is more open and "umbrella". I haven't noticed that about "transgender", though. Queer (in my mind) means gay, lesbian, transexual, metrosexual (I hate that word), straight-but-not-narrow, freaky, pierced-all-over, tattooed...
In general, anything not run-of-the-mill.
I'm gonna stop now before I run out of hyphens to use...
:)
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Re: Define "queer"...?
Mon, August 30, 2004 - 7:23 AMTransgender is definately an umbrella term here in the Netherlands as well.
Even butch dykes are sometimes considered transgender.
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